Monday, October 10, 2005

 

Chilling Intolerance

Dave Johnson at Seeing the Forest is clearly very frightened of the influence military bloggers (MILBLOGS) and other right leaning bloggers are exerting over public, political discussion.

Responding to Blackfive’s post on Journalists and the Military, Johnson issues an ominous warning:
In other words, anything other than the right-wing viewpoint will not be tolerated. And it links to posts calling the press "anti-America" and advocating press blackouts when the press won't report what Republican governments want them to report.

This is especially chilling because the context of the post is "terrorists." Think about where these people are taking the country.
And what fascist nastiness did Blackfive utter to chill Johnson to the bone?
At some point, you have to pick sides. Not choosing a side is choosing not to be on our side.
Like the military, members of Congress and our other elected representatives likewise swear an oath to defend the Constitution, and fail to live up to that commitment.

The point Blackfive, and many other Military Bloggers make, has nothing to do with the press reporting "what Republican governments want them to report."

It has everything to do with willful ignorance and misreporting of facts on the ground, "ground truth" as we say. We are here, and see what is to be seen every day. Many less reputable (and certainly less honorable) members of the press peddle falsehoods, actively promulgate propaganda from sworn enemies of the United States, hire Terrorist accomplices masquerading as "freelancers," and otherwise seek to turn every news report into a childish exercise of "how can we use this to make Bush look bad?"

Either left leaning commentators like Johnson are too biased to see that for what is is, or they think we (and a majority of your fellow Americans) are too stupid to see it.

If the press will publish bad news, at least just stick to facts. Avoid subjectivity and judgment. Present context. Maintain perspective. Recognize agendas. Don't be a patsy, any fool can tell when something's staged. If some positive news can be included, that would be nice too.

If it weren't for MILBLOGGERS, there'd be no positive voices out there at all. And yet as few as we are, you suggest we should be silenced, and portray us as those who would deny anyone the right to dissent or vocalize their opinion.

Astonishing in its complete separation from reality.

What did Blackfive say again?
At some point, you have to pick sides. Not choosing a side is choosing not to be on our side.
In other other words (ones that are connected to reality), maintaining some bizarre sense of impartiality or neutrality (or objectivity, which would probably be okay if any of the Old New Journalists knew what that word meant), in the face of brutal inhumanity is to be on the side of evil. When a terrorist intentionally targets innocents, women and children, families, any form of non-combatant, they are not deserving of any sympathy or respect. And to remain non-judgmental about them is to condone and tolerate evil. And that, my morally tone-deaf friends, puts you on the other side.

UPDATE: I meant to link to two earlier pieces, a discussion of New Journalism, and a debate over "liberal bias" in media over at Debate Space.

UPDATE UPDATE: I took the time to read the excellent commentary of United Press International (UPI) Reporter Pam Hess, as linked by Greyhawk at Mudville Gazette.

Hess, who served as an embedded reporter in Iraq, reports:
...most soldiers do not recognize the Iraq they read about in the newspaper or see on TV, and it is deepening a gulf they feel with the media and with a large sector of America. The same goes for their family, friends and strangers who read soldiers' many blogs about their war experience.

The two realities just don't track.
Hess does a terrific job of capturing the disconnect between what's most commonly (and widely) reported from Iraq and what the avergae GI here experiences here. I feel that disconnect every day. I try to describe for those back home that my soldiers and I don't feel practically at risk or in danger, even out on convoys. We are alert, and prepared for trouble, but time and personal experience has taught us: that we can't predict when or if we will be the ones in the wrong place at the wrong time; that our own preparedness decreases likelihood of attack; and that we are more likely to suffer a physical training injury than be killed or even wounded in combat. (Or, for that matter, to even see any combat.)

Hess describes the cognitive dissonance in this way:
The dissonance between my own experience and the facts in front of me revealed an important truth about this war.

Iraq is like the elephant and the blind men. In that parable, the blind men describe the elephant as they experience it. One, holding the tusk, says an elephant is smooth, hard and sharp. One, feeling the belly, says it is soft and wrinkled. Another, holding the trunk, says it is long, thin and muscular.

Each is right. Each is wrong.
No doubt this is true, to a point. That is, to the point that comparisons are made or context is provided, something that happens somewhere in a continuum between objective reporting and subjective editorial commentary. And as the discredited (Old) New Journalism tore down that wall of separation between fact and opinion, the ability of readers to make intelligent judgments about what they were reading evaporated.

Hess concludes with a doctrine, which if fairly executed, would be a hopeful middle ground between what the Soldier sees as ground truth, and what the Reporter believes needs to be told:
There should only be true stories, accurately told.

Iraq is a deceptive place, with thousands of narratives running through it. None is more right or wrong than the blind men describing the elephant.
Links: Basil's Blog, Indepundit, Jo's Cafe, Outside the Beltway, bRight & Early, The Command T.O.C., Blogotional

Comments:
Dadmanly,

I for one and my family thank you all for what you're doing over there in Iraq. We are under no illusion that thanks to you and all our brave service men and women, we back here in the states are able to sleep safely at night. I too, hate our communist media and if you get a chance to look at my blog I've written about how the media butchered the reporting of the Hurricane Katrina disaster. Well, God bless to all of you and again - THANK YOU for a job well done!!

Robert
comscommentary5.blogspot.com
 
The "communist media" comment sort of makes my point, no? Mixing up military interests with the interests of the far-right "conservative movement."

THAT is my point about the BlackFive post. It mixes up the interests of the Republican Party and the Right with the interests of the military. The "conservative ovement" is anti-free-press. The military is supposed to be neutral on issues like that except to support our Constitution that guarantees a free press. It's just like how the Republican Party has skillfully done the same thing with Christianity. Intermingled in people's minds the interests of the Party with the interests of Christians, really just to get votes for tax cuts.

On another subject I agree with the sentiment that it is thanks to the service of military men and women that we sleep safely at night. But again, why is that expression mixed up next to a sentence about our involvement in Iraq! Another "conservative movement" adventure, unrelated to military and national interests.

No fault of the military, but all we have done in Iraq is destabilize a Sunni-controlled terrorist-free area and handed it over to Iranian Shiite interest!. There we were in the middle of a serious action against al Queda in Afghanistan and worldwide. Iraq had nothing to do with that.
 
Dave,

Individuals of all political persuasions have "templates" for what they perceive. For conservatives, terms like "Communist" explain any ideological framework left of say, Gerald Ford. For liberals, terms like "fascist" or Nazi are likewise used for anyone to the right of Joe Lieberman.

Soldiers have political views. Soldiers also have military interests, as their butts are so often on the line at the receiving end of political decisions about the military.

I disagree with your assessment about anti-free press. What greatly offends those of us who critique the media are distortions, inaccuracies, political agendas, and subjective editorializations in what otherwise purport to be straight news stories. This has been a steady erosion of journalistic integrity and "objectivity," as muhc as that ewas ever really possible.

Those in the media are free to report falsely. They are free to form political opinions and judgments and those judgments "liberally" influence their reporting.

Readership are equally free to stop buying their product, and hence flock to conservative sources of information.

Last but not least, you are naive and blinded by ideology (or greatly misinformed) if you think that Iraq was either "terrorist free" or completely uninvolved in terrorism generally or 9/11 specifically.

It doesn't really matter how often the subjective press repeats the assertion, Iraq was a terrorist haven prior to our removal of Sadda. Saddam for many years paid $25,000 to the families of homicide bombers who blew themselves up in Israel. This monster, who dominated and terrorized every facet and segment of his society, allowed Ansar Al Aslam to train Islamic terrorists (Palestinian, Al Qaeda, whatnot) in Iraq. Iraq had a "hijacking" school that was very popular.

All this in addition to quite significant evidence that Saddam may have known about 9/11 in advance, and quite plausibly may have had some involvement in either planning or support of those who executed the operation.

And that's just "external" terrorism. The terrorism Saddam and his sons unleashed on the Iraqi people was horrifying. We routinely hear reports from common laborers who worked (or had family and friends who worked) for the Husseins in Tikrit and elsewhere. Such risk takers needed to beware, as Saddam regularly had his "peasants" and whole families locked up and tortured if he passed by and thought they weren't working hard enough. His sons were sexual predators who liquidated entire families if a female in their midst appealed to their sexual appetites.
 
"...but all we have done in Iraq is destabilize a Sunni-controlled terrorist-free area and handed it over to Iranian Shiite interest!"

And if anyone dares to say any differently they get accused of getting their information from Faux News.

Criticizing the press for being biased, or else just incompetent, morally baseless rather than neutral, and stupidly gullible, is not calling for silencing or censoring the press. It's just free speech in return.

Pointing out, as Blackfive and Dadmanly have done so well that "...to remain non-judgmental about them is to condone and tolerate evil. And that, my morally tone-deaf friends, puts you on the other side." Is something that needs to be said and that the media, all the way down to journalism 101, needs to deal with.

There's something about our culture that prohibits criticism of people in other cultures but allows full condemnation of our own culture. I doubt that people even realize that they are doing it. Still, we've been taught to be "tolerant" and this is what we do.

When the news media does this... it's NOT being neutral. It's holding either side of the conflict to different standards. It's the sort of disconnect that can lead people to saying what I quoted Dave saying above, without realizing that they've said something outrageous.

(Besides which... The Iraqi Sheat and Iranians *aren't* the same group at *all*. Which is some *context* that our media ought to be giving us but isn't.)
 
War is a national endeavor. It does not belong to a political party. The military does not belong to a political party.

There is a reason why it takes an "Act of Congress" to use the military. War is the act of a NATION.

Once the fighting has started, those who act against the war, are acting against the NATION.
 
"Saddam for many years paid $25,000 to the families of homicide bombers who blew themselves up in Israel."

Yes. So did Saudi Arabia. What does that have to do with the interests of the UNITED STATES?

But Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11. Nothing. It did not have weapons to threaten us with. It was a SECULAR state, not an Islamic theocracy (which it is under the new constitution.)

Is it sound military strategy to pull your resources out of the war you are IN - against al Queda - to engage in a war-of-choice like we did in Iraq? And I won't even get into the effect the ongoing situation has had on readiness -- what happens now if trouble breaks out in Korea, for example?

And look at the results of our adventure there. We are now siding with the Shiites against the Sunnis in a civil war. The Shiites meanwhile are joining up with our enemy Iran. The Shiite consititution reserves the southern oil to the Shiites (which is why the Sunnis are fighting), which longer-term means the oil strengthens Iran. Explain the logic of that!
 
Student's Dad - you should READ the "act of Congress" that supposedly authorized this war -- the one in Iraq. It didn't.

And what do you mean "war?" Who are we at "war" against in Iraq? We invaded to overthrow the Baathist Party government. That is done. What is the objective now? Who is the "enemy" with the Baathists gone?

al Queda was not IN Iraq when we invaded, but now we have created a recruiting paradise.

As for Iraqi Shiites not being the same as Iranian Shiites -- see Fox News, Juy 8 "Iraq, Iran Plan Military Cooperation" -- only the beginning.

"Asked about possible US opposition to Iran-Iraq military cooperation, Shamkhani said: "No one can prevent us from reaching an agreement."

Iraq's al-Dulaimi echoed Shamkhani's comments.

"Nobody can dictate to Iraq its relations with other countries," he said. "
 
Dave's got some good points. Of course I *would* think that.

I've put up a thread on Debatespace with a little piece of this. http://debatespace.blogspot.com/2005/10/if-youre-not-with-us-youre-agin-us.html

dadmanly and I can yowl more about that over there, it is a wonderful chance for an argument since I think I disagree with him about 95% on this one :P

BW
 
Dear ManlyDad,

Noted your comments on Mr. Johnson's website. Fully support same.

TopSgt, I hope you will keep pressing on with your posts. You are spot on. Mr. Johnson is deaf to Reason, and blind to Truth. Nothing you can say will sway him.

But the rest of us are listening. Even if we are a little blind and reckless sometimes.

Press on, Top.

Subsunk

(Sorry I keep butchering your pen name, but I think of you more as a Manly Dad than dadmanly.)
 
I've read some interesting essays on the different ethnic and religious stresses in the region, Dave, and while it hardly makes me an expert, it did show just how complicated the situation is. The "oh my god, the sheat masses will rise!" is at least partly similar to the fear that blacks in the US or Asians will push whites from their proper place. When you read the alarmist Arabs warning that the Sheat will become powerful... keep that in mind.

And I do realize that I'm an outlier, but I'm not afraid of Iran. Yes, we should do what we can to keep them from becoming a nuclear power, and their human rights could use some (a lot) of improvement. Nevertheless, *if* we do undertake military action in another country in the reasonably near future, I think it will be Indonesia. (And I can honestly say I've not heard anyone else say that... but Indonesia is an ever growing mess and it's impossible that they will not begin exporting terror soon enough.)

Should the Iraqis *not* form diplomatic relations with their neighbors? Considering that their Arab neighbors send a steady stream of potential suicide bombers across the borders and all. (Though the bombers often enough have to be drugged and beaten before they'll go blow up Iraqis.) Still the fact that the Iraqi Sheat and the Iranians of the same religion are not the same people group is important. The Iraqis have their own identity.

I particularly like that the Iraqi government is confident enough to act against our advice. They are not puppets. We are not puppet masters. Our presence does not inhibit their independance.

Anyhow, I heard a rumor that the Kurds are mostly Sunni... must make them natural allies of the Arabs, huh?
 
Great post - I've linked here
 
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